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Massively Overthinking: What would you want out of a potential WoW sequel?

Take a walk on the already-done-this side.
Take a walk on the already-done-this side.

It’s a uncommon MMO participant who’s by no means performed World of Warcraft, which makes this specific summer time an fascinating one for the entire style. Even in case you’ve lengthy since left WoW behind, you’re in all probability idly questioning whether or not new updates, Basic, and even the enlargement more likely to be introduced at BlizzCon are value your whereas. It’s arduous to not be swept up within the frenzy of the second.

However what about after? Gamers who discover that Basic belonged up to now the place they left it or decide that trendy WoW has far an excessive amount of baggage to hold into the longer term may certainly be questioning what comes subsequent. However a modernized sequel, full of every little thing Blizzard should have discovered alongside the best way, may perk the IP proper again up. The query is… what would you need it to seem like? And would anyone on the market agree with you?

Such is the query I’ve posed for the MOP writers on this week’s Massively Overthinking. Would you like WoW 2, and what would you say are the three most crucial qualities it should have?

​Andrew Ross (@dengarsw): I’m with Carlo on this. Cross platform and cellular have gotten more and more necessary for video games trying to attain the plenty. The issue is having accessible and enjoyable gameplay that works on all platforms.

Simplified fight controls and RP alternatives might be a great repair. Auto leveling whereas offline and/or xp positive factors by means of actual life strolling ala Pokemon Go’s Journey Sync might assist casuals keep on board.

However I’m nonetheless unsure how it will do as a persistent world. Would we nonetheless have the ability to have Orgrimmar crammed with individuals? Alterac Valley-scale PvP? And as fight is usually king, wouldn’t it be partaking sufficient for PC and console MMO vets? Fortnite does nicely as a foyer recreation, however I’m unsure it may be retrofitted into MMO-hood.

Andy McAdams: Completely. Whereas it’s obvious the Ion’s management of the present WoW is… questionable at greatest, it’s additionally pretty protected to imagine that the present codebase has a good quantity of tech-debt that forestalls Blizzard from doing somethings — or makes it prohibitively onerous to take action. Beginning over from a brand new codebase is a good way to get a clear slate to make all new errors.

I feel WoW 2 would wish a strong lore cause for present. Both we bounce approach into the longer term or approach approach means into the previous. Or a terrific lore-driven reset button to recon the entire rattling factor. I feel it must be open-world, present significant play in any respect ranges, repeatable content material in any respect ranges, perhaps lastly surrender the ghost on conventional ranges in any respect; significant and rewarding non-combat play, participant housing as a result of it’s bloody ridiculous the present WoW doesn’t have it.

The market is ripe for a legit digital world with strong lore backing. It’s hat EverQuest Subsequent ought to have been – the market want is there, they only have to do it. I imply, they gained’t as a result of “LOL RAIDZ ARE ALL TAHT MATTER LOL,” however it’s what they need to do.

Brianna Royce (@nbrianna, weblog): I’d play WoW 2. With caveats! I’ve good reminiscences of the center interval of World of Warcraft, perhaps Burning Campaign to Pandaria, in there, and I’d like to get that feeling again with a brand new recreation. I don’t thoughts the IP, and I favored enjoying a strong MMO with a strong firm behind it – it’s a consolation. However I’m over the luggage, the wasted zones, the extent grind, the one-off methods that get deserted two years later, the lengthy waits for content material, the obsession with a raiding endgame, the haphazard improvement, the obsession with Horde and orcs, the sloppy PvP improvement, the shockingly boastful design leads. I suppose that is why I wandered away a couple of years in the past.

If WoW 2 prevented these issues, and left the luggage behind, yeah, I’d play it. So for me, it’s not about what’s in it however about what’s not in it and who’s not operating it.

However let’s be trustworthy, I actually simply need housing, significant crafting/financial system, and bards.

Carlo Lacsina (@UltraMudkipEX): Blizzard has all the time been at its greatest when it takes what works from numerous video games of a specific style and refine these methods into the brand new style commonplace. I’m going to be a bit of extra pessimistic, it’s going to need to attraction to the bottom widespread denominator. I might not be stunned in the event that they go together with motion fight. It will be soooo superior if it have been a sandbox with instancing!

Right here’s what WoW wants: It must attraction to Gen Z. It wants a brand new base. We’re getting previous. It must be playable on telephones and PCs, nevertheless it has be PC high quality on a telephone. Not the opposite method round. Consoles too, we will’t ignore that. In an ideal world, cellular gamers and console players could have the honour and privilege to play with the PC grasp race. It must go huge for my part, and it might be a mistake to disregard the gang.

RP is getting massive. They should begin together with RP instruments with the sport. And I imply ones which have by no means been seen earlier than. How cool wouldn’t it be if Blizzard let gamers create their very own emotes? Heck, the power to make new emotes from gamers can be sooo superior.

Their new engine must be on level too. It must run properly on all methods, even on a potato. Oh, and that system wants to permit for citybuilding. They should go together with some loopy participant housing system that may let gamers create their very own cities too!

Oh, and gender-locked class- I’M KIDDING.

If Blizzard needs to succeed, it’s going to wish to place much more energy to the gamers. In fact, this isn’t the Blizzard I grew up with, so I doubt something I stated will come true.

Colin Henry (@ChaosConstant): I’m a type of uncommon MMO gamers who hasn’t performed World of Warcraft, so in some methods I really feel like I don’t actually have a stake on this one. On the similar time, although, perhaps that makes me the perfect audience for WoW 2: individuals who love MMOs however aren’t enjoying WoW.

Truthfully, the most important factor that retains me out of WoW proper now’s that there’s simply a lot of it, and so many individuals who’ve been there since day one. A recent begin is perhaps the one factor that would get me into WoW at this level. I might additionally wish to see the enterprise mannequin change to one thing like buy-to-play, with a subscription being optionally available. I’ve lengthy questioned how for much longer WoW can survive on the subscription-only mannequin when nearly everybody else within the business has deserted it. However hey, that subscription retains printing cash for them yr after yr, so I assume that’s simply me.

I might rattle off an entire record of recreation parts that might be modified or added to make the sport extra to my liking — like housing, higher crafting/financial system options, extra class selection, and fight that isn’t so creaky — however I additionally assume they need to be very cautious with including these sorts of issues. Once I consider WoW, I consider tab-target fight, dungeons and raids, and pretty inflexible, trinitarian class roles. For those who change that up an excessive amount of, you aren’t solely going to show off present gamers who’ve caught round this lengthy as a result of they like that sort of play, however you’re additionally going to have an uphill battle convincing individuals who didn’t like WoW that WoW 2 is completely totally different. Sequels have to innovate, however additionally they want to ensure they don’t alienate their viewers. It’s a fragile stability, and I’m glad it’s not my determination to make.

Mia DeSanzo (@neschria): I truly subscribed and tried to play WoW for some time at launch, however sooner or later I noticed I used to be paying for a recreation I wasn’t enjoying and that was the top of that. It wasn’t compelling for me. That took about 4 months. My solely remorse is that lots of people I do know IRL and from EverQuest performed (and a few nonetheless play) WoW, so I felt neglected at occasions. Not sufficient to place myself via enjoying it, although.

I might check out any new MMO made by Blizzard as a result of it might in all probability be fairly top quality and it’d click on this time. I’m prepared to offer virtually something an opportunity. I’m not sitting right here jonesing for WoW 2, and I really feel like it’s unlikely to occur anyway, however I might attempt it out, ideally in some free trial state of affairs as a result of I hate paying full worth for a recreation I find yourself abandoning after a couple of weeks.

Now I’ve to go to confession to apologize for that final sentence.

MJ Guthrie (@MJ_Guthrie, weblog): Um, nicely I’m undoubtedly not the one to ask! I’m a type of within the loopy minority that has not even a tiny sliver of curiosity in ever enjoying that recreation. I did attempt the beta for like 15 min earlier than I used to be carried out for good and left, by no means to look again. I’ve by no means touched the sport once more. Does that rely as truly enjoying? Some say sure, some say no. What that each one means is I can’t give any opinion in any way on a sequel as a result of I don’t have one, nor would I contact it for any cause if there have been! In the event that they ever make a second one, nevertheless, I hope it’s one followers like they usually have a good time of their recreation.

Samon Kashani (@thesamkash): You could have all discovered me out. I might possible give WoW 2 a attempt, a minimum of for a couple of months. After that, there’s primarily no means it might maintain me until it someway made it purchase to play, which isn’t unimaginable however in all probability unlikely. I simply can by no means convey myself to paying a subscription charge for a recreation. I additionally assume it will have to be motion oriented fight to maintain my consideration. I merely get bored now with virtually anything.

Lastly, PvP child! From what I do know WoW has an honest PvP recreation within the battlegrounds. If it might do this once more with some wonderful graphics and motion fight, you then at the very least get me for the preliminary buy.

Tyler Edwards: There are only a few issues I’m positive Blizzard won’t ever do, however WoW 2 is one among them. At the least not for an additional 10 or 20 years. Whereas it has fallen from its peak, WoW continues to be in all probability probably the most profitable MMO available on the market, they usually’d be fools to separate their viewers like that. Past that, Blizzard has proven an unimaginable willingness to vary nearly each facet of WoW with new expansions, so there’s not a lot a sequel might do this an enlargement can’t. Truthfully I’d argue we have already got WoW 2, if not WoW three or four by now.

As for whether or not I’d need WoW 2 even when it have been a risk, no, not likely. I do know I’m a dinosaur clinging to the previous at this level, however to me Warcraft will all the time be an RTS franchise initially. An MMO was by no means a great match for the setting, they usually needed to sacrifice a lot concerning the story and the character of the world to make it work. If new Warcraft video games are to be produced, I would like them to return to the franchise’s roots. That possible means an RTS, although I feel an formidable single-player RPG a la Dragon Age might additionally probably work.

Even then, although, I’m unsure I would like extra. The very fact is I really feel Legion wrapped up the franchise fairly nicely. It’s not good, and there are unfastened ends, however on the entire it was an excellent enlargement and a very good conclusion to the franchise’s story. The Burning Legion was all the time the primary menace of the setting, and even when current revelations arguably make the Void a much bigger menace, I’m unsure a Warcraft with out the Legion is one thing that pursuits me. I say this not as a gripe; it’s as a result of I’m so proud of how issues ended that I’m hesitant to proceed on. With Chris Metzen’s departure, it’s straightforward for me to put in writing off something after Legion as glorified fan fiction and simply be content material that my favorite recreation franchise obtained a (principally) satisfying ending.

At this level I’d be extra more likely to be fascinated by prequels. Give me a Troll Wars or Warfare of the Ancients recreation. These are in all probability too area of interest to have mass market attraction, however I’d play them.

It’s nonetheless attainable for Blizzard to entice me again for extra post-Legion Warcraft, however they’d should do one thing dramatic when it comes to story, gameplay, or each to persuade me it’s value it. So far as WoW goes, scrapping Pathfinder and letting us fly might be prime of the record of the issues I would like, however international level-scaling within the fashion of Elder Scrolls On-line or dropping the sub may additionally get me to offer it one other probability.

Each week, be a part of the Massively OP employees for Massively Overthinking column, a multi-writer roundtable through which we talk about the MMO business subjects du jour – after which invite you to hitch the fray within the feedback. Overthinking it’s actually the entire level. Your flip!